Actually if the sandwich Artist cuts the U (not supposed to be v) shaped gouge correctly, there is MORE surface area (for dressing)/volume (for ingredients) inside the sandwich. The top part might have seemed a little small and could get a bit slippery with too many sauces, but the trough of the v was great for keeping the toppings in the sandwich. 2. There are through-cuts (separating the roll into two parts) and partial slits like the vertical clam roll slit cut through the browned top crust and the horizontal hot dog slit cut through one side of the roll. It often depends on individual taste or eating style, but theres a lot of science as well. All loves were 12", and they would cut one in half to make a 6" sandwich. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. You stick with whats easiest and what can get people in and out of the door. *Originally posted by vasyachkin * He described what transpired over the last few months as a case of "prioritizing and reprioritizing." Yikes, thats ignorant. Vani Hari, who runs FoodBabe.com, has targeted other food companies including Kraft and Chick-fil-A for the chemicals in their products. re: When did Subway change the way they cut the bread? I will confirm a previous point : the U-cut was used as trickery designed to make the sandwiches look bigger and more stuffed than they were. Instead, the five-judge court found that Subway's bread was a "confectionary or fancy baked good," as its sugar-to-flour ratio was nearly five times too high to fall within the legal standard of staple foods. Subway Restaurants CEO: Confident franchisees will survive coronavirus. Wash your hands. Speaking as a Brit who is unfamiliar with the Subway u/v cut (as far as Im aware it isnt normally used over here, and back in the 70s when I worked for a while in a deli cutting HUGE french baton sandwiches, we used the new Subway cut) the following points occur to me: I would find the new cut easier to hold without the filling falling out - it is held securely inside the bread, not balanced on top of it; The filling is distributed more uniformly through the bread, and youd be less likely to get a mouthful of bread with no filling. Like most important questions this has been covered on the SDMB before. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. This was used so that you could spread and arrange the slices in the proscribed pattern which was scientifically proven to make it look like there was more meat. It's not the same. Subway appears to be streamlining its sandwich offerings, but some customers arent biting. NEW YORK -- Subway says it's in the process of removing a chemical from its bread as part of an ongoing effort to improve its recipes. Bookfinders claims that it shouldn't have been taxed and that it is entitled to a refund. They changed the Veggie and Cheese with 8 slices of cheese to the Veggie Delight with only 4 and charged more. I certainly understand and applaud the OP. **. The apparent healthiness of Subway's food helped put it on the map. **My understanding of the change was customer complaints, after people caught on to the fact that by using the u-cut, subway was able to use much less filling in their subs than other sub shops. They put the toppings inside, then they put the lid back on. Under Ireland's Value-Added Tax Act of 1972, bread can't have a sugar content that exceeds 2 percent of its weight of flour in dough to be considered a staple food and therefore tax-free. *Originally posted by wolfsbane * Subway started changing this 20 years ago. Although the ingredient is used in other food products, Hari said she focused on Subway because of the healthy image it tries to project. Deli mustard. But I think this is inconsequential. As a child I made my post Thanksgiving turkey-and-gravy sandwiches the same way I made a turkey-and-stuffing or turkey-and-mayo - and thats just fine- but having experiemented, Ill never go back. "Subway's bread is, of course, bread," a Subway spokesperson said in a statement. The bread is always WHITE on top!!! and have to actually find a way to dispose of it afterwards ? This exemption led Subway franchisee, Bookfinders Ltd., to seek a refund on the basis that the quick-service sandwich shop serves food on bread and therefore should be exempt from the 21% VAT tax when sandwiches arent eaten on its premises. After years of declining sales, Subway is hoping to reintroduce itself to customers and convince them to give its sandwiches a shot. I love and adore Subway, >BMT to be exact, with everything,minus jalepenos,heavy onion,mustard &mayo,vinegar&oil,s&P, but I refuse to buy another one around here until they turn the heat back up, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Some tricky sandwiches benefit from having some of the roll hollowed out. Id hoped to see comments from the personal experiments of others. There were lazy employees that would make the V and they would get chewed out. Right now I am more concerned with the fact that the Subways in my neck of the woods have forfugginggotten how to brown the bread!! SUBWAY has ditched 12 items from its menu, including its popular ranch dressing, taco beef, and peppered cheese, and fans aren't happy. What the hell was you thinking Subway!!! The republic's Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that because of their sugar content, Subway's loaves don't meet the legal standard for bread. Of course, sometimes it would fall on the floor while they preparing the sandwich, and (if the customer saw the lid fall :D) the subway employee would have to start over. Download the CTV News app now. I often have this kind of question myself, and really enjoy how employee reminiscences on the web reveal all sorts of minutiae that never made it into the public eye, except through the often self-serving and inaccurate accounts given by company spokemen (who themselves have no firsthand knowledge of the subject), However, I really have to wonder: is the art of home sandwich-making really so dead? It's actually worse for you than getting the Italian. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. 1. Two flat surfaces of bread simply take less volume than a U shaped resevoir. maybe they just didnt want to waste the bread ? Tastier overall than subway's version. They changed the quantity of other stuff they put into the sandwich. They used to have a prepared stacking of meat for each sandwich style with a consistent amount of meat. (AP / Seth Wenig) NEW YORK -- Subway says it's in the process of removing a chemical from its bread as . Did subway always offer 6 inch and foot long? It has pictures of both cuts. I've never seen them cut the bread down the middle. This may be difficult for employees who are less experienced. Your body and your waistline might thank you. Cookie Notice Same principle applies here. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. I thought they've always cut it through the middle. or redistributed. Danish. I am bias now as to if I ever had a subway sub with the u/v cut. Outlying sections of a system usually emerge aboveground, becoming conventional railways or elevated . Ive noticed Subway getting much more stingy with the toppings these days with the new cut. No thank you. People would happily* wait 15 minutes in line to get our sandwiches. Subway hasn't offered a timeline of when this would happen, except that "the complete conversion to have this product out of the bread will be done soon." Even on simple slit-cut rolls, theres a soft side/firm side/seamless issue e.g the softer side where the roll had more3 contact with its is more likely to split if used as the angle of a slit-cut sub. They were more cylindrical and they would roll. I dont particularly care how the sandwich is cut at this moment. ie east coast carries rosemary and sea salt bread while in the Midwest it's more like Italian herbs and cheese. Why'd Subway change how it cut the bread? re: When did Subway change the way they cut the bread? According to the Irish Independent, the case by Bookfinders stems from a 2006 decision in which the Office of Revenue Commissioners denied it refunds for value-added tax payments made from early 2004 to late 2005. The new ones dont. A representative for Subway says the change was underway before the petition was launched, but did not immediately provide details on when it started or when it would be complete. *Very nice people those aero-space industry types. For those of you who have hated your Subway sub toppings falling out of your sub for the last decade and a half, it's time to rise up and demand that Subway bring back their old way of cutting their bread. [deleted] 11 yr. ago Monterrey Jack (shredded) Peppered cheese. They didnt change the quantity of meat, as far as I know. The petition noted that Subway doesn't use the ingredient in its breads in Europe, Australia or other parts of the world. Stefan Sykes is a news associate for NBC News. Okay, so Im a loon. FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK FOR MORE FOX LIFESTYLE NEWS. Subways fans have also been lamenting the loss on social media, with one even writing that her boyfriend, who works at a Subway, literally bought 15 POUNDS of discontinued rotisserie chicken when he heard it was being taken off the menu. It only means you dont know. The result? Copyright 2013 HackTheMenu. The training at your store may be different. A chicken breast sandwich and water are seen at a Subway location in New York, Aug. 11, 2009. Instead of slicing the bread in half, they would cut a v-shaped trench on the top. Or so goes the scuttlebutt from employees when questioned. Interestingly enough, I explored this post and thought that it was along the lines of that If we remove one olive from each jar, we can save 2 million dollars a year school of thought. Another Subway fan is unhappy about a lot of the changes, saying he misses the flatbreads, peppered cheese and veggie patties. I know that I have developed, over the years, many different bread cuts for different types of sandwich, each with its own well-tested rationale, born of a lifetime of casual sandwich making. lightningtools theory that it is a result of knife accidents strikes me as unlikely too. Got one today and they cut the bread down the middle. The line EVERY WEEKDAY went out the door. 0 [deleted] 11 yr. ago Is that the same reason you stopped making them taste good, stopped offering provolone cheese, and stopped offering whole wheat bread? Ireland's Supreme Court says the bread used in Subway locations throughout the country is loaded with so much sugar, it should not be considered a "staple food.". And according to a CNN Business story, in 2019, the popular fast-food chain's reported number of stores was 17 percent higher than the Golden Arches.'. Subway Restaurants CEO John Chidsey says 90% of franchisees have applied for small business loans and its economic model is strong enough to survive the coronavirus. Some would say you should never eat the wheat bread at Subway, and here's why. (AP / Seth Wenig). opened flat in a large toaster or V-toasted under a broiler) on various slits. Some loose meat, ground beef or sauce-rich sandwiches hold together better with a top-cut inverted Y slit (inverted T for two-lobed portuguese rolls) while messy sandwiches that need uniform layering may work better with a side-cut V or W slit. You should be able to get that again by just asking for an "old cut.". I havent eaten at Subway for years, but if they went back to the straight cut, then thats how they used to do it. Ok, I think we are missing the main point here. But if you're a fan of the new menu, you can get a free sub-wrap from Subway worth 4.80. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Call me crazy, but I remember it the other way around. "Were always listening to our guests for what they need from us next so customers can head to our website to let us know what they want.". Unless Im missing something, a decision like this usually comes down to corporate greed. I prefer the old way, but it ain't coming back. All rights reserved. Subways are usually built under city streets for ease of construction, but they may take shortcuts and sometimes must pass under rivers. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. However, the . In Ireland, tax exemptions can be issued for essential food staples, which includes bread. gets more snow, Prairies warm-up, Document reveals first known Canadian UFO study in nearly 30 years now underway, B.C. After reintroducing a new version of its $5 Footlong promotion (a controversial move in and of itself), Subway has seemingly removed two popular offerings roast beef and rotisserie-style chicken from its menu entirely. SUBWAY EMPLOYEES ASKED TO DESCRIBE THE 'STRANGEST ORDERS' THEY'VE EVER FULFILLED. Got one today and they cut the bread down the middle. If the Subway Secret Menu isn't enough for you, you may also enjoy the McDonalds Secret Menu, the Starbucks Secret Menu, and the Jamba Juice Secret Menu. I asked if she could cut the bread out of the top and she looked at me like I head three heads. For the uninitiated, there once was a time (a glorious time . The new cut makes it easier for the employee to refrain from putting so much inside. While Subway's veggie patty has been replaced with its new vegan patty. I don't work for Subway, so I can't say for sure. Privacy Policy.Socialize with us on Twitter and Facebook. BMT had 3 Ham, 3 Baloney, 20 salami and 20 um I forget. I gotta tell you, of all the theories posted, this last one by unixrat seems the most believable to me. But fans of the veggie patty aren't pleased by the shake-up. Is this another cost cutting measure too??? Flatbread. The ingredients were semi-self-contained. **maybe they just didnt want to waste the bread ? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. CNN . He tweeted: "Stopped my veggie patty then took my flat bread and peppered cheese. IE 11 is not supported. Now, that was over 10 years ago that they stopped cutting their sandwiches this way. **. Fox News Flash top headlines for September 30. and dont even get me started on the effects of various methods of toasting (e.g. Subway's bread reportedly has a sugar content that 10% of the weight of flour used, according to the judges ruling. The determination was made in response to an Irish Subway franchise owner who challenged the European nations value-added tax, according to a report from the Irish Times. I contributed to the thread but was baffled trying to think of a commercial reason for the change. Announcing its removal, Subway notes chemical has USDA and FDA approval. View our online Press Pack. The determination was made . Enriched wheat flour comes from wheat whose bran and germ have been stripped away, leaving the endosperm (via Evoke Healthy Foods). All of Subway's heated sandwich bread options white bread, Italian, nine-grain wheat, honey oat, Italian herbs and cheese, nine-grain multiseed and hearty Italian have sugar contents of 10 percent. Specifically, back in the day they used to cut a wedge out of the top of the bun. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. At least now you might be able to convince the chef to throw on a couple of extra slices if the manager is watching too closely. Fun stories about food, relationships, the great outdoors and more. Holy shite. The U cut holds more stuff. (iStock). A franchisee of the U.S. food chain was hoping for a tax break, but Ireland's highest court ruled it was ineligible because the bread has too much sugar. 86429 posts. The new menu options are available now in Subway's 2,447 stores across the UK, although as Subway operates as a franchise it means prices and offers may vary by store. ", And another tweeted: "Legit having THE WORST day to be topped off by the f***ing liberty that @SUBWAY have stopped doing ranch dressing. The U wasnt to trick the customer. Depends but they usually ask if you want the select sauces before putting the toppings. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. Customers can choose from an Italian white bread, a mozzarella- and cheddar-blended Italian herbs and cheese bread, a hearty Italian bread, a 9-grain wheat bread, a 9-grain multi-seed bread and a 6-inch gluten-free bread. Ranch dressing. As an aside, because of the lack of the bread placed on top of the U-cut, in the Dublin branch, whenever they wrap the sandwiches, they get sauce everywhere - all over the wrapping and not on the sandwich - because for some dumb reason the employees put the sauces on last. The old lids were more prone to fall than the new ones. quote: I admit I haven't had a Subway in a while. Canada's Most Trusted News. FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK FOR MORE FOX LIFESTYLE NEWS. The slices were so thin they only had one side. The company said it will be reviewing the ruling. All in the name of cost cutting and screwing the customer without their knowledge. LIVID. Legal Statement. Market data provided by Factset. While Subway has been known for its iconic grooved bread since its inception in 1965, the company made the decision to change their bread-cutting technique in 2018, replacing the familiar groove with a flat surface. Simply put, the bread boat concept needs two ends in the loaf, this would imply that all the subs where the same length. I used to work at subway. Don Martin: The Trudeau tipping point is within sight, Canadian food bloggers share tips, tricks to make filling budget-friendly meals, 'Not every sale is a bargain': How to avoid common money mistakes. Something else similar to salami. A turkey sandwich used to have 6 slices of meat. I as a Subway employee (before the sandwich Artist days*) always cut the sandwich with as much of the inside removed to make it hold as much as possible. PHOTO: CUSTOMER JOKES THAT DELI WORKER PUT 'ENTIRE SALAD' IN TURKEY SANDWICH, A representative for Subway did not return Fox News request for comment, although one of Subways official Twitter accounts appeared to confirm that the offerings were largely discontinued, and only still available at some locations., CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP FOR OUR LIFESTYLE NEWSLETTER. Let me try again. Subway has not publicly stated why the offerings were out at most stores. Come on guys bring it back. * Did you eat at Subway when they were cutting it with the U shaped cut? News of Subway apparently discontinuing roast beef and rotisserie-style chicken follows the chain's announcement that. A plate or a bowl? You can not create two more ends once you cut a foot long loaf into two 6 inch pieces. An Irish Subway franchisee, Bookfinders Ltd., prompted this legal interpretation after it sought a tax break for some of its menu items. However,ShapeFit seems to echo that person's assertion, alleging that Subway's whole wheat bread is enriched. The one on the right is the v-cut, just how it looks from the middle. The U-cut is also referred to as the classic cut. It often depends on individual taste or eating style, but some customers arent biting waste the bread other. My veggie patty has been replaced with its new vegan patty can get people in and out the. 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