I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Just tried this out but the blasted PLC AI was hell bent on losing and had to delete the save since I'd already given up half my country to separate peace Aragon. This war can be tricky, so it can be useful to curry favors with important allies that can distract the Spanish, like France, Russia, Britain, or even Bohemia, Scandinavia, or Naples. The country is mountainous and can be tricky to conquer or divert resources to, especially if you need them against Spain. 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This area is very wealthy and contains the Islamic Holy cities of Mekka and Medina. Watch if you can either go around it by declaring war on an ally, vassalizing the state instead, or ask it kindly to break its alliance using the Great Power status. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now, but their total units are 173k compared to my 49k. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. Before declaring war, see if there are any vassals you can annex. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. While if they attack them with you not allied to said nation, it's that big country plus it's allies and then you can start a war with your allies against the Ottoman at the same time. Next, focus on supporting rebels and destabilizing them. . Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Try to break up their alliances. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. Fortunately, this is a coastal province, so you wont have to expand deeply inward. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. The guide also assumes that players know the basics of the game, such as constructing buildings, managing armies and finances, and conquering new territory. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Beats conquering, right? In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Press J to jump to the feed. Thing is, I don't think there is an easy fix to this because, as I said, optimal play happenes as a consequence of how the game is designed. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. I wasn't attacked even once during my sieges and once I scored 100% I liberated some countries and absorbed enough provinces to get me to around 100% over extension. I prefer to leave Ethiopia alone for most of the run, and simply conquer around them. Currently Spain. Ottoman Empire became modern day Turkey lol. If you can't get to them early, you may need to wait till later in the game. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifier. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. It's not so much worth breaking truce any more with AE, revolt risk and manpower recovery in the early game being what it is. By writing about games, he can bring two of his great passions together. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. That's why my new. Or, just annex Russia and use their force limit. Punch Syria out of them if you can. Cordoba is a landlocked province, so its tricky to fabricate a claim. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. If Medina still exists, you can likely vassalize them to speed up your conquest. After that it can become too costly and dangerous to challenge them, up until 1750, when the game triggers them to decay. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. I also guaranteed the Moroccans, to prevent Spain from consolidating its foothold in the Meditteranean. East Africa is a great target. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. Also always have a military advisor, either a 5% discipline one or a +10% morale one. to give yourself an edge. What do I do? Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. form italy (maybe with milan first cause of the sweet ideias), go quantity offensive defensive. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. their units start to not keep up with different tech groups making them weaker. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. Congratulations on restoring the Caliphate! No you're not. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Once call for peace is sounded, you should peace out after a few months as it quickly becomes too expensive in dip to maintain. You can attack the Spanish head-on, but this might bring in some difficult allies. In my game, Austria has been beaten down and is pretty tiny, Russia is getting slowly annexed by me and the Malmuks aren't doing much. In the late game, at military tech 19 (for infantry) and tech 18 (for cavalry) The Ottoman units will have less unit pips compared to the western tech group. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. If you share borders, build some forts and have some battles with -1/-2 modifiers. Prussia and Commonwealth are capable of wiping out numerically superior Ottoman armies. I beat them 2 times , once as Prussia ( it isn't hard to beat them as Prussia ) and as Great Britain ( I allied Russia so Ottomans had to deal with 2 flanks ).My biggest tip for you is that you dont let Ottomans blob too much .I mean if u see them eating the whole of Russia or the whole of PLC , you have to prepare to go to war with them.Get some good generals , some good moral ( something that ottomans dont have ) and some good discipline and you win . Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. I might be able to get France on my side too. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing the. If you have built up your nation in the 1650-1821, you should be able to handle them as Spain. This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. The best way to beat any AI is to let them bleed all their manpower in small stacks, so try to and block the Bosporus if you have naval advantage and let small stacks through (small here being less than 20k or so), then wipe them with a numerical advantage. Aside from this generic advice, be sure to check whether you can accidentally vassalize your allies. Normally it's about 100-120k? Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. Siege down the fort in Malaga before swarming over the Spanish mainland. Although its tricky to avoid, its possible to increase your chances to keep Fezzan alive long enough to let it fall into your sphere of influence. This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. Well I just got out of a disasterous war with the Ottomans. Take as much land as you're willing to take. You can do this again and again, until they reach stab -3 (they will stab up though, if they can, but just keep going). I had about 100k troops and France, Austria, Venice, and Brandenburg on my side and we all got crushed, leading me to believe the Ottomans are just naturally supposed to dominate. The Ottomans have both quality and quantity, which is what makes them so scary. The Ottomans are hard to take down the longer you leave them undisturbed. Did you find this guide helpful, or did you run into trouble anywhere? What military ideas do they have? When youre annexing a vassal, see if you can concentrate land. As long as you own at least one occupation, Tunis will never be able to annex Fezzan, allowing you to vassalize it instead and use their cores against Tunis later. I'd take Constantinople and Edirne so you have a land block of the Bosporus and the Ottos can't move their troops through. Congratulations! The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. After the war ends they will quickly self- destruct through rebellions and other nations invading. Let me know your thoughts in the comments! I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. I've read several ways. Be ready to play defensively if Ottoman decides to choose you. To repeat some more basic info (so you wont have to hop pages all the time), this EU4 Ottomans guide was written for patch 1.33.3 with all DLCs installed. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. I usually like to set out goals. Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. You can expand this at the cost of reforms or by giving your estates particular privileges. with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. You should aim to eradicate them by 1550. Stack up on military ideas and policies (for example quality + religious gives extra morale and siege ability) so despite my lower army size they are vastly superior in quality. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. You can beat them in the early, middle, or late game. Imo wars in eu4 are less about fighting and more about sieging, especially later in the game with the Imperialism CB where you need to siege your opponents capital down asap for easy WS and WE. If they have a weaker ally (Tunis is often good for this), DOW on them; this will drag Ottos in, but without the benefit of their powerful allies. It was something like 250/month ,but thanks to owning both North and South America I had huge treasury plus huge monthly income so it was no big deal. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? If they engage you in a bad position, forfeit the battle to prevent a stack wipe. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. start again as france and take beter ideas and no CB byzantium early. Use your fleet to prevent the Spanish from landing more units in Morocco while you siege it down. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. Once you declared war on Tunis, expand Fezzan in the desert itself and take the powerful coastal provinces for yourself. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. Build strong Alliances around the Ottomans so you can call them in when they are weak. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. Cookie Notice A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. The next war should be much easier. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. If they also lag in mil tech you've got 'em on the ropes. Give the UlemaUlema Land Rights, the Merchant GuildsMerchand Guild Land Rights, and the DhimmiDhimmi Land Rights. The best way to beat this navy is to snipe their fleets which they like to spread out since Mare Nostrum. Dont even consider fighting the Ottomans if you arent allied to several strong nations like Austria, Russia or the Mamluks. Press J to jump to the feed. 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