I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. It seems to have been expurgated from their current advertising. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. Both the gen 4 and the personal. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. Regular price. Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. austria regionalliga west tyrol. This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!) If it heats, cools, moves air or water, we do it. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75. Complain all you want the heater works well. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 . If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. Browse Locations. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! I WAS FREEZING. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). THiS IS FOR JIMS COMMENT,IF U HAVE A HOT WATER HEATER THINK ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING IF THE WATER IS HOT U DONT NEED TO HEAT IT. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. Even a child knows that hot air rises. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling. Updating my comments on the EdenPure. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. Its safer than most to. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. We bought edenpure in September. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. There are none so blind as those who will not see. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. . Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. As a local family owned company that has been in business for over 30 years, we continue to value the trust you have placed with us to provide your families and homes with professional, reliable and affordable Heating, Cooling & Indoor Air Quality solutions. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. To do that, you need to weatherize your home and lower your thermostat(s) so your heating system has to work less. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! Since electric space heaters convert almost all the electricity into heat, they are all equally efficient. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. But keep in mind that based on current national average prices and adjusting for the energy losses due to burning a fuel, heating with electricity is about two and a half times more expensive than heating with gas, the most common heating fuel in this country. ft. Just picked one from trash. In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. They were not meant to be used in that manner. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. Consider Choosing a Different Electric Heater. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. Underdogs: Directed by Doug Dearth. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. But remember Edenpure didn't directly claim they would save you money, that was just the testimonials that they scattered throughout the infomercial which claimed savings. Buyer beware. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. So people, please pay attention to this post and others like it and don't fall victim to this Biotech/Eden pure scam. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. That scenario assumes that you have to heat only a single room to heat at a time or that you own multiple EdenPure space heaters; that once you're in a room you stay put and don't move around the house; and that you're willing to keep the rest of your home at a chilly 50F. They are PAID to endorse these products. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. I love it. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! That crock of the well-known barnyard commodity doesn't cut it. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. We have really high ceilings. Their flagship product, the EdenPURE infrared heater, was first launched in 2007. Shame--big time--on Bob Vila, since he HAS to know better. Energy savings will be the same either way. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. I have no complaints. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Endenpure I dont know till I get it. bl. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. A UNIT is $1000. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. This heater will warm almost my entire upstairs, 1250 sq ft. Today, I had my central heat heat on 64 to try to save $$$ on my electricity. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. As for bob vila. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! Within a month the heating capacity was diminished 50 %. Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? After a high-risk surgery, Eric uses his tenacity and faith to relearn how to do everything. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. that I happen to agree with. ductwork loses a lot of energy if it is in unheated areas (your attic, your basement, etc.) I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. Bob Vila has ruined his credibility with me by endorsing the Edenpure Gen 4,The Gen 3 was satisfactory, the gen 4 is junk. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. PERIOD. Nothing has changed. Nothing is 100% efficient. Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. This sure seems to be a scam. is way overpriced for what it does. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. Solve this simple math problem and enter the result. The heater is a point source of heat. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. Buyer beware ! So I am not really surprised. Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Glad I read all these posts before wasting my money on Edenpure though. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. My electric bill actually increased. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. Common sense. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. With extensive time, money and research devoted to product development and safety, EdenPURE has emerged as an industry leader. They are usually a rip-off. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. I was dumb enough to fall for this scam. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. We have unplugged our Eden Pure and have decided to think of this as a 300.00 back up heat source in case our gas furnace takes a dump. I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. Bill Burkett is known for Skarecrow (2004). I criticize the device for a few reasons: But Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure says it best: Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. You still need them. Thanks for the good info that saved me. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. xc. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. But if you're going to buy a space heater, you don't have to shell out $400 or more for the EdenPure Gen 3 Model 1000. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. Every one I talked to loves there eden pure I going to get one this weekend worth it. A btu is a btu is a btu. I guess not. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . I tried to return the heater and it has been a running around to find the right place where I purchased it from. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) bill burkett heater net worth. Would i buy this. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). What a bunch of scam artists. And it is VERY safe. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. Have i used them. Process for forming coal compact without a binder Patent number: 5658357 The linear source of infrared radiant energy and heat exchanger are mounted in a heater core that is thermally insulated by an air jacket from an exterior case. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. This is the second blog I have complained on. Program your thermostat and lower the temperature inside your home so it is closer to the temperature outside. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. Nice flat spot for debris. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! EdenPURE claims it uses a copper coil to reduce harsh heat. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! With D.B. Emmy Award-winning American news personality Ken Rosato Ken is best known for his work in WABC-TV's morning newscasts. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. I guess two guys with a beard is supposed to lend your overpriced heater more credibility. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? It will cost more. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. they will endorse anything for a price . Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. You have to have a control then you have to know all of the temperatures outside, the amount of insulation, the temps in the house, the furnace size and type (gas , electric, propane) how 'tight' the house is and several other factors. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. Don't buy this slick ripoff. of insurance. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. 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